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Erys Vasburg · Jul 15, 2009, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

About grind in Aion - with the 1.5 patch, they double the amount of EXP from quests. This way, while most of the quests are "kill XXX" or "gather YYY" or "kill ZZZ times WWW", it quickly adds up. For instance, getting to level 10 in Aion is about 2-3 hours, skipping most of the quests in the starter area.

not to nitpick or anything but that's twice as grindy as WoW is right now... you sure you are backing the right game? you may wanna go play warcraft if you don't like grind.

therangereminem · Jul 15, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

not to nitpick or anything but that's twice as grindy as WoW is right now... you sure you are backing the right game? you may wanna go play warcraft if you don't like grind.

aion leveling once you know what to do 6 hours to get to level 20 sint hard guildwars takes just a much

Shursh · Jul 15, 2009, 09:58 PM // 21:58

leave guild wars? hell naw, this game is awesome and free.

Cirian · Jul 15, 2009, 10:26 PM // 22:26

I'm not going back to subscriptions!

Verene · Jul 15, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Nope.

For starters, I have a general dislike of p2p games.

Second, I played in one of the closed betas. I was thoroughly unimpressed and underwhelmed. Perhaps I am spoiled by GW, perhaps it is simply that I dislike MMOs as a rule and am not a fan of grind nor persistent worlds...but there was nothing to it that stood out. And the graphics, while nice...didn't impress me terribly. The only good thing I can really say about it was that it felt more fun than WoW or FFXI did.

But really, it just struck me as yet another Korean grind-fest. Nothing at all special to it.

So nope, I'll stick with GW.

Earth · Jul 15, 2009, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Aion looks fun, but atm I really don't have the time to play a P2P game. I log in to GW for maybe 2 hours max, but at times (pretty often actually) I only have time to play for 30 mins.

And paying 15euros a month while only being able to play 30 mins - 2 hours is not worth it imo.

daraaksii · Jul 16, 2009, 06:32 AM // 06:32

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

not to nitpick or anything but that's twice as grindy as WoW is right now... you sure you are backing the right game? you may wanna go play warcraft if you don't like grind.

http://news.17173.com/content/2009-0...64113669.shtml

A short, english version:

http://www.onrpg.com/boards/127634.html

pumpkin pie · Jul 16, 2009, 07:56 AM // 07:56

the class system is somewhat like that of Requiem Bloodymare.

Nomme Moon · Jul 16, 2009, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Will I? I already have.

Bryant Again · Jul 16, 2009, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by daraaksii

http://news.17173.com/content/2009-0...64113669.shtml

A short, english version:

http://www.onrpg.com/boards/127634.html

Is that what's going to be the norm, or is that a bit more isolated of an experience?

Erys Vasburg · Jul 16, 2009, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by daraaksii

http://news.17173.com/content/2009-0...64113669.shtml

A short, english version:

http://www.onrpg.com/boards/127634.html

and two guys grinding on mobs for 5 days almost constantly without breaks and with the help of an out of party healer is relevant how? you can hit warcrafts cap in just a bit more time than that (5.5-7 days played time total) SOLO through QUESTING.

lol they may as well have just botted. stupid. this just proves that aion is full of grind (grinding mobs giving better exp than questing? lol enjoy your korean f2p with a fee).

I don't even play GW that much anymore but I wouldn't ever dream of leaving it for aion now that I know how typically korean it is and how bad it looks (low rez terrain and jagged edges with full AA? what is this, 1999-2001? lol).

maybe a new mmo will come out soon that's actually worth bothering with.

Arduin · Jul 16, 2009, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

About grind in Aion - with the 1.5 patch, they double the amount of EXP from quests. This way, while most of the quests are "kill XXX" or "gather YYY" or "kill ZZZ times WWW", it quickly adds up. For instance, getting to level 10 in Aion is about 2-3 hours, skipping most of the quests in the starter area.

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Originally Posted by therangereminem

aion leveling once you know what to do 6 hours to get to level 20 sint hard guildwars takes just a much

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Originally Posted by daraaksii

A short, english version:

http://www.onrpg.com/boards/127634.html

With post like these, I'm terribly happy GW has a level cap, or is going to have an imaginary one, like we will hopefully see in GW2. Games that are about levelling just isn't my thing anymore.

Abedeus · Jul 16, 2009, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

I don't even play GW that much anymore but I wouldn't ever dream of leaving it for aion now that I know how typically korean it is and how bad it looks

Did you actually play the game? No? Then please, stop spouting ignorant comments about graphics based on SCREENSHOTS.

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

and two guys grinding on mobs for 5 days almost constantly without breaks and with the help of an out of party healer is relevant how? you can hit warcrafts cap in just a bit more time than that (5.5-7 days played time total) SOLO through QUESTING.

You all have been spoiled by WoW. I don't think it was as easy to get to max in WoW at the beginning, wasn't it?

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Is that what's going to be the norm, or is that a bit more isolated of an experience?

It's really easy to get to 20 on your own. And it's even easier and faster in groups, or just PvPing.

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

lol they may as well have just botted. stupid. this just proves that aion is full of grind (grinding mobs giving better exp than questing? lol enjoy your korean f2p with a fee).

Did. You. Play. The. Freakin'. GAME?!

They didn't bot it.

Also, mobs give more exp than just quests, but that's because getting to a quest and then killing only quest-specific mobs and then returning to quest giver is usually slower than staying at one place. Just don't expect that potions (quite expensive) will just be given to you - I bet they've played the game before, normally, then managed to beat it in 5 days.

Doing MISSIONS is a lot better and easier than killing mobs.

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

maybe a new mmo will come out soon that's actually worth bothering with.

No, it won't come out. People like you will just shout at it "LOLOL WOW CLONE F2P WITH FEES LOLO GRIND NOOB" and won't even bother to play it.

Bryant Again · Jul 16, 2009, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

With post like these, I'm terribly happy GW has a level cap, or is going to have an imaginary one, like we will hopefully see in GW2. Games that are about levelling just isn't my thing anymore.

When leveling just takes more of a backseat, like in single-player RPGs, it becomes much more enjoyable. But when it's like "gotta get to level 13 gotta get to level 13" I realize that I'm not enjoying what I'm doing and /log.

Things were different in Guild Wars. It doesn't have any sort of endgame prepared so ANet didn't spend all their time trying to glorify the content at max level. Instead they just put all their effort into playing through the story.

That said, I'm gonna look up some classes abilities and see how they work out at max level. I've already had a miserable experience with WAR's endgame RvR, if Aion's looks any similar I'm not gonna touch it.

Edit: Good god, first spell I see is Winter's Embrace II. Can being paralyzed be broken on damage?

Erys Vasburg · Jul 16, 2009, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

They didn't bot it.

please take the rose colored glasses off and comprehend what i said ty. hf with your p2p korean mmo. smart people will stick with gw or play games that aren't a joke.

btw I've fiddled with the Aion now so I know how it looks and plays thanks. it's bad in both areas. take your low rez terrain grindan game back to 1999. defend it all you want, that's what it is. oh no you can't tell me I haven't played it now, whatever will you do?!!? nerdrage more.

Abedeus · Jul 16, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by Erys Vasburg

please take the rose colored glasses off and comprehend what i said ty. hf with your p2p korean mmo. smart people will stick with gw or play games that aren't a joke.

You are jealous of them or what?

One person plays 12 hours, the other sleeps. Then the other plays 12 hours, the first one eats, sleeps and rests. And so on, so on, till 45.

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btw I've fiddled with the Aion now so I know how it looks and plays thanks. it's bad in both areas. take your low rez terrain grindan game back to 1999. defend it all you want, that's what it is. oh no you can't tell me I haven't played it now, whatever will you do?!!? nerdrage more.

LOLO LOW REZ TERRAIN GRINDAN GAME

I thought that we all have learned a lesson from Conan? Terrain graphics =/= good game.

Also, character details in AoC < character details in Aion.

As for now, you are the person using ?!!?, so it's not me raging xd

Oh, but wait, I forgot we shouldn't play past half of the game to judge it, playing till 10-20 should be enough. Then I say WoW is bad, but only because it sucked till level 10.

Or do you think WoW has good graphics?

Erys Vasburg · Jul 16, 2009, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

One person plays 12 hours, the other sleeps. Then the other plays 12 hours, the first one eats, sleeps and rests. And so on, so on, till 45.

duh? hence they MAY AS WELL HAVE been botting. l2english, it's not hard.

point being that botting or bot-like grinding is stupid and maxing out by doing it is not a measure of how grindy the game is or is not. thus getting max level in the way they did was a stupid thing to point out in response to a comparison of grind in two games.

you follow?

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Oh, but wait, I forgot we shouldn't play past half of the game to judge it, playing till 10-20 should be enough.

1. you have no idea how much i have played.
2. if you are not max level and have not played the endgame yet you are not qualified to defend the game. see? i can make arbitrary decisions of what is and is not enough to judge a new mmo just as well as you can buddy.

Bobby2 · Jul 16, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

stuffzorz

Chill, Winston! It's just a game

Ghost Omel · Jul 16, 2009, 02:23 PM // 14:23

I also do not like P2P games.....in general... unless they game got me interested in it so much =)..

Unfortunately i have to break this rule of mine for one game.. TOR.. Just bacuse it is star wars being the fan of the series since 1995 =) I will have to dish out meselfy 1 hours of work to pay off for 1 month subscription... i can do that =)... But no i am not wasting money on Aion to me for some reason it seems as if it is Anime-ish and i dont like that + that it P2P... so no i wont be leaving Guild Wars for this particular game.. but i will take a break from it for The Old Republic

Bryant Again · Jul 16, 2009, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Sooo does anyone know if paralyzation can be broken easily? Otherwise all that CC is going to ruin endgame.